That's capitalism. I can't even imagine why did people in Europe and Russia accepted this after those bloody centuries when capitalism of Vatikan or Byzantium showed only dark sides of it?
This is a great observation you make here! The churches were pretty much like big corporations vying for supremacy! Apparently monasteries also were just like a kind of bank for local rich people to store their wealth in, which is part of the reason why the Vikings saw fit to raid them (well, that and fact that they saw the Christian world as a threat to their freedom and way of life, which wasn't without foundation - the Viking age really began after Charlemagne attacked and massacred the Heathen Saxons, and some scholars now think that this was also a primary motive for Vikings to go out and attack Christian places, not just because they'd managed to build bigger and faster ships and wanted loot.)
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Maybe we're often timid and scaryable? I can't take a point about this. It's just a black age of the whole humanity.
I've come to think that humans can only too easily slip into a degenerate, bestial sort of behaviour unless they remember the good values, honour and wisdom that their ancestors taught them, and learnt themselves through many generations of hardship, war and other bitter experiences of life.
I'm just wondering how big powers like China and India fit in here - how do you see those fitting into the world scheme?
China has chosen a strange way of capitalism and combined maosism. The personality cult of Mao Zedong has eclipsed the rights and freedoms of Chinese citizens. They don't have failed with a demographic catastrophe and this caused a lot of problems - poverty, hunger, crime and lack of potable water. China now requires our territory and the supply of fresh water in Lake Baikal. Do you like when Chinese ask you give them your home only because they breed like rabbits? For me - not. China is certainly great potential for the army, but it was always a bargaining chip in the world. The fate of China has only cheap machines and electronics, trade relations and the demographic collapse of the civil war in the end. China is already experiencing a shortage of drinking water, hygiene and wood. But geopolitical counterweight to the United States is obvious. U.S. forced to make decisions on the revision of China.
India has always been our closest friend and colleague. I've always told everyone that I can not express my great love for all Indian people. We have close trade and military diplomatic relations with India, personally I only see positive prospects for relations with this country also they have the same guess. That's right. USA tries to keep closer to India but I'm sure they have no chances after their actions in Middle East and Vietnam.
India and China - two countries with the biggest population suffering the troubles with food and water. Only present ways to solve these problems can let them to grow up, nothing more because population is growing and current politics doesn't care about this. It's over 7 billions of people on this nice Blue Ball - what will we all to eat and drink?
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It may all have just been a hoax - how will we know? Can we just act and base beliefs on suppositons and allegations, just as the actual war in Iraq was only based on suppositions and allegations? In a way I'm not surprised people believe in different conspiracy theories, since unless we're actually privy to all those meetings around oval desks behind closed doors, we can never really know what's gone on and why! Events on the ground can be so complex and contradictory that seeing the true enemy is not always easy. Maybe it is just - human greed and ignorance (and maybe it's always been so..)
No smoke without fire. Conspirology always had been incomprehensible to most of people but if you look closer, it contains many interesting facts. Especially when the good examples are in full view in the world. I do not believe in fairy tales about alien invaders in the USA, about the secret development of UFO but I believe in world government. You must be not a scientist to realize it.
There are lots of concepts, where we should not go for extremes. Like a crypto-zoology. Many people do not believe in this science, but that has given us new species of animals. If you associate this science to the search for ghosts or monsters (oh, I like it also I had seen ghost and trust in it), it's your choice. :) But Cryptozoology specializes in search of unknown animals, using the stories of local residents. Maybe Loch-Ness Ichthyosaur too :P
Conspirology is a science in the same category. If I had enormous power in the world, I would first create a special congress of the rulers of the world for our actions were agreed upon in the arena of world politics.
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so "touche" to you good sir with that one!
:D :D
Ain't we fencing here?
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Maybe this would be a good way to test NATOs sincerity - ask them for concessions and see what the response is...
NATO has specific goals to conquer Russia since USSR didn't let them do it last time. We have large resources, black and brown coal, oil, copper and aluminum ore etc. Only thanks to Gods USA hasn't yet found a apparent reason to enter their troops here like "Oh, you have a big bomb and we just must to kick your butt!" :D my arms are always polished for this case B)
NATO formally has no more reason to exist, but it exists. Gigantic financial resources used up in the political fraud of NATO.
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sorry - so how can we understand the different manifestations of socialist thinking? Is there only true kind, or is it a basic model with slight variations?
Socialism must always exist for the benefit of every individual in society. And each individual must be a part of society. The foundation of society is the family. I can't write here a long lecture on the topic. Read this:
and if you will have any questions - ask me ;)
The churches were pretty much like big corporations vying for supremacy! Apparently monasteries also were just like a kind of bank for local rich people to store their wealth in, which is part of the reason why the Vikings saw fit to raid them
Monasteries and Christian temples had always been the objects of shady dealing in the business of free nations abuse . The church can not only cover well-intentioned goals to "save our souls" (Whom save from - nobody knows), but to use gullible people in Church's own purposes. Occupation of Palestine and the Holy Sepulcher, the Inquisition, the genocide etc...
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I've come to think that humans can only too easily slip into a degenerate, bestial sort of behaviour unless they remember the good values, honour and wisdom that their ancestors taught them, and learnt themselves through many generations of hardship, war and other bitter experiences of life.
The main problem is the globalization of nations by changing us to a shapeless mass of people without family and tribes. With one money (Euro) and one country (UN). It's easy to rule us when we're all the similar to each other. The world is coming mix in gray color like nothing but sterilized crowd of slaves.
Верея, правила данного раздела форума. Это форум для иностранцев, они не виноваты, что не знают русский язык. Aelfgifu родом из Англии, родновер англо-саксонской традиции. Также она является представителем от английской организации Asatru в Великобритании. Если не трудно - пишите здесь на международном английском языке.
Верея, правила данного раздела форума. Это форум для иностранцев, они не виноваты, что не знают русский язык. Aelfgifu родом из Англии, родновер англо-саксонской традиции. Также она является представителем от английской организации Asatru в Великобритании. Если не трудно - пишите здесь на международном английском языке.
это прекрасно, на самом деле. Я хотел бы изучать русский язык - я пытаюсь узнать русского алфавита на данный момент, но забывают, один или два. Следующий урок является основной приветствия России. я не против, если люди хотят говорить со мной на русском или английском - обсуждение хороша в любом случае!
My friend, Верея confused this forum with the Russian forum. She thought you are Russian, and that we just decided to communicate in English. :lol:
Well done with your Russian, Aelfgifu! There are some inaccuracies with the cases and declinations of nouns so it makes you a foreigner :D
Anyway if you want to speak here in Russian - try to do it, everyone will understand what did you want to say. But this forum was created specially for foreigners.
China now requires our territory and the supply of fresh water in Lake Baikal.
Really - they're wanting your water? I didn't know - looks like you're being squeezed from both east and west here!
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The fate of China has only cheap machines and electronics, trade relations and the demographic collapse of the civil war in the end
I really need to get to grips with Chinese affairs, since it's a part of the world I'm not all that familiar with. I suppose if their economic success starts to fail, then there will be civic unrest. Some analysts do predict future problems for the "Chinese Miracle" as they run out of resources - I've seen a news report on that.
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India has always been our closest friend and colleague. I've always told everyone that I can not express my great love for all Indian people. We have close trade and military diplomatic relations with India, personally I only see positive prospects for relations with this country also they have the same guess. That's right.
I can only echo this - I've been lucky enough to visit many times and it's a country I've fallen in love with! The people are indeed wonderful, though they have good or bad memories of we Brits depending on their family's experience of us. India has managed to maintain its cultural integrity and religious traditions despite a history of invasions, so I cannot help but admire her. Also, of course, our Indo-european cultures are all related and we share many common values - the Vedas are the oldest holy books in the world! I regard them as holy too in many ways - they contain some brilliant philosophy!
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India and China - two countries with the biggest population suffering the troubles with food and water. Only present ways to solve these problems can let them to grow up, nothing more because population is growing and current politics doesn't care about this.
Yes, I can attest that the poverty in India is terrible, teeming millions live in conditions you wouldn't let a dog live in - I knew it existed but it was a real shock to actually witness it up close. It really made me realise how shallow, pampered and childish people can be back in the west. How preoccupied many are with empty trifles, whilst on the other side of the world there are all these poor scruffy little kids begging for bottles of water, food, and a few rupees at taxi windows (what's worse is that "beggar masters" make money out of these kids to buy drugs etc) The govt has tried many times in the past to encourage birth control and such, but not a lot has worked, plus right wingers got into power and focused more on big business and spending their money on building an arsenal against Pakistan etc rather than social welfare programmes. Some crackpots here in Britain think we should never have given India up, thinking them incapable of ruling themselves. They cite rampant political corruption in India as an example of why this is true, but the recent corruption revelations in our own political system have silenced these voices somewhat...
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There are lots of concepts, where we should not go for extremes. Like a crypto-zoology. Many people do not believe in this science, but that has given us new species of animals. If you associate this science to the search for ghosts or monsters (oh, I like it also I had seen ghost and trust in it), it's your choice. :) But Cryptozoology specializes in search of unknown animals, using the stories of local residents. Maybe Loch-Ness Ichthyosaur too :P
Well there's truth in this as well, yes. Ghosts etc are not accepted by mainstream scientists yet, but both of us can attest that they are real, because we have seen them! Loads of members of the public have spiritual experiences, get messages from dead ancestors etc that prove true, and so the scientists can't explain it (other than as "tricks of the mind") but empirical anecdotal evidence supports their existence. You could apply this logic to political conspiracies too, but I am a bit extra cautious with them, because the same facts and evidence are taken by different groups and interpreted as evidence of their particular point of view. So some US conspiracy theorists who speak of "Stalino-zionist world domination", or "Secret Control by the Masterplan of the Red Chinese", will use pretty much all the same world events and political dirty dealings to confirm their own particular worldview, whilst people on the left have a field day now confirming their own theories using the (admittedly rather more abundant) evidence that's presented itself over recent decades. So perhaps you have the edge on right-wing conspiracy thinkers right now, and maybe you can be said to have ideas that are "reasonable suspicions" with some foundation in reality rather than exactly conspiracy theories, but - I still have a little chink of hope that not all is so sinister in the world (even though we both know there are plenty of sinister people in it! :D )
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We have large resources, black and brown coal, oil, copper and aluminum ore etc.
Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf about the necessity to invade Russia in order to gain any considerable power in the world for this very reason. Anyone who really does have major geo-political ambitions will know this, and of course some will indeed be looking with beady, greedy little eyes at all your stuff. If I was Russian I think I'd want to be reassured by a big defense budget and nice big military parades as in the Soviet era! :D You guys really knew how to put on a show, and I recall that the music was also great!
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Only thanks to Gods USA hasn't yet found a apparent reason to enter their troops here like "Oh, you have a big bomb and we just must to kick your butt!" :D my arms are always polished for this case B)
This is why you Russians need to retain the ability to kick butt back, and keep your place in the world! There are sympathisers with your POV here in UK politics by the way, and I was reading a news piece yesterday in the Independent newspaper (politically centrist) which was saying that the UK needs to stop judging Russia as in the cold war era, stop acting like a US "mini-me", and learn to see Russia as an equal with historical and geo-political concerns of her own. This is also the sort of thinking that considers the west should also have stayed out of the Balkans, not supported the dubious antics of such as the Georgians, and that interference by naive and romantic ideologues in the politics of east European countries in the name of "preaching the creed of western-style democracy" was a gross mistake, especially since some of these countries have now become havens for Russian-hating fascists who put flowers on the graves of dead SS officers! (plus, the state of western european culture is not exactly an example for the rest of the world anyway!!)
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NATO formally has no more reason to exist, but it exists. Gigantic financial resources used up in the political fraud of NATO.
Well they have the excuse now of fighting global terrorism (which is, I'm sure, exactly the excuse they'd use), though a good counter-argument to that point is the fact that this is probably not best fought by big armies and tanks etc, but by secret services and special forces. All our countries could still co-operate with each other on all that whilst not breaking national boundaries or other security concerns. We don't all have to sign our lives away and risk our national rights and sovereignty by joining the latest big world "gang"! You know, when I look back at some of the political commentaries I've read over here, some people have been saying this for years - that Britian really needs to be "Great" Britain again, look after her own interests by not getting too pally with one world power at the expense of another, get out of the EU, the UN is pointless and should mean "Useless Nations" - in short, we'd all be better off just staying in our own backyards, keeping our noses out of things that don't concern us, and saving a whole lot of our budget (not to mention our honour) in the process! (EU and possibly also NATO membership costs us a considerable amount of money!)
My friend, Верея confused this forum with the Russian forum. She thought you are Russian, and that we just decided to communicate in English. :lol:
Well done with your Russian, Aelfgifu! There are some inaccuracies with the cases and declinations of nouns so it makes you a foreigner :D
Anyway if you want to speak here in Russian - try to do it, everyone will understand what did you want to say. But this forum was created specially for foreigners.
Well, I have to confess (my face is turning red with shame here :unsure: ) that I used the assistance of an online translator! My grasp of Russian is actually currently restriced to only a few basic words like Da, Nyet, Spacebo etc, and an ability to read most of the letters of your alphabet! I tried to indicate this but when I check the Russian translation by translating it back into English again using the same programme, instead of saying "I can use a translator" as I intended to say, it seems to have said "I can translate it"! So, whilst I have indeed started to learn Russian with an online beginner's course, I must admit that I am not as good at it as you may have been led to believe! :lol:
Having said that, I will when I get more proficiency try and communicate in Russian (we Brits are famously bad at languages, and so I should probably say instead "Be warned that in future I may try to inflict my terrible attempts at Russian on you, and so will apologise now for any potential affront and gross misuse of your grammar etc. No offense is intended!:lol: )
Really - they're wanting your water? I didn't know - looks like you're being squeezed from both east and west here!
Not only China but others countries in the world. Nowadays humanity has beginning "Water probs" with planet resources. We suddenly realized that water is a non-renewable resources in humanity-made disasters. Rivers begin to become contaminated with heavy metals and hazardous metal salts, organic cadaverous poison etc. Baikal belongs to Russia, but it contains pure drinkable water, that's why many mouths gaped at our water resources. We are not against sharing water from a peaceful country, but let them ask politely, and not be presented to the claim. I noticed Chinese folk in general is at lack of morals and culture other than their own morality and culture. They ain't like other countries, they are different to Europe and Russia. If they believe that the territory of eastern Russia indirect belong to them, so see no more partnerships with them.
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I really need to get to grips with Chinese affairs, since it's a part of the world I'm not all that familiar with. I suppose if their economic success starts to fail, then there will be civic unrest. Some analysts do predict future problems for the "Chinese Miracle" as they run out of resources - I've seen a news report on that.
However, not only they have problems with their "odd" people. Russia has continuously suffered from the invasion of Chinese illegal immigrants here. Some call them "yellow locusts." :D
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Also, of course, our Indo-european cultures are all related and we share many common values - the Vedas are the oldest holy books in the world! I regard them as holy too in many ways - they contain some brilliant philosophy!
Besides, our people belong to one branch of the Aryan peoples. Read about some folk in the middle of Pakistan and Afganistan
Indian are such similar to Europeans, not like Chinese or others Asian folks. Also Russian is similar to old Indian - Sanskrit. For example:
ada (sansk.) - eda (rus.) - eat (eng.)
adi (sansk.) - odin (rus.) - one (eng.) - remember Odin
asmi (sansk.) - esm' (old russ.) - is (eng.)
ashta (sansk.) - eight (eng.) - vosem' (rus.)
matri, mata (sansk.) - mat' (rus.) - mother (eng.)
nabhasa (sanck.) - nebesa (rus.) - sky (eng.)
svasti (sansk.) - schastje (rus.) - happiness (eng.)
traja (sansk.) - troe (rus.) - three (eng.)
chatvara (sansk.) - chetvero (rus.) - four (eng.)
and over more hundreds examples, you will see them if learn sanskrit and Russian
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Some crackpots here in Britain think we should never have given India up, thinking them incapable of ruling themselves.
Ha, it looks like "we invented the Sun and the Moon and shall never give them to others, they are ours!". As I know British presence in India kept order there, but did not allow India to develop freely. Am I right?
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Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf about the necessity to invade Russia in order to gain any considerable power in the world for this very reason. Anyone who really does have major geo-political ambitions will know this, and of course some will indeed be looking with beady, greedy little eyes at all your stuff. If I was Russian I think I'd want to be reassured by a big defense budget and nice big military parades as in the Soviet era! You guys really knew how to put on a show, and I recall that the music was also great!
This is our bane. Big country and a lot of fools. :D Lazy and tolerant people - that's our "sin". This is the reason for many territorial conflicts to Russ especially after the capture of the Cossacks (kazak's general Ermak) in Siberia.
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There are sympathisers with your POV here in UK politics by the way, and I was reading a news piece yesterday in the Independent newspaper (politically centrist) which was saying that the UK needs to stop judging Russia as in the cold war era, stop acting like a US "mini-me", and learn to see Russia as an equal with historical and geo-political concerns of her own.
We here still don't forget those brave years when Russia and UK were in common Union called Triple Entente, and we were friends. But the Revolution in 1917 made us in different sides of barricades. I hope UK and Russia soon will be more closer then now, and our heathen movement shall help us as it can, I see it.
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Russian-hating fascists who put flowers on the graves of dead SS officers!
They do it only for the provocations make us aggressive to Baltic countries but I know people there are looking at us like friends, and as usual government watches different eyes to its folk. It's often case when government and people are two different countries on the same lands.
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Well they have the excuse now of fighting global terrorism
Okay, where did they find terrorists' bases exactly? Membership in the European NATO forces you all to send your young male citizens to 'hot spots' in the Middle East. It sounds like a crazy raving.
Having said that, I will when I get more proficiency try and communicate in Russian (we Brits are famously bad at languages, and so I should probably say instead "Be warned that in future I may try to inflict my terrible attempts at Russian on you, and so will apologise now for any potential affront and gross misuse of your grammar etc. No offense is intended! :lol: )
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Online translator - our common home helper. I often use it for talking to Norwegians or Germans if they don't know English even in its plain spoken style. I learned English for six years but my true knowledges about your native language are now coming only since not long time ago when I started to be a head of our International Dept.
As usual we Russians are unconcerned about foreigners if they are not fluent in spoken Russian. Probably, the Russian language is more difficult than English, but I do not know, because I know my native language for a long time. :D as you know English.
They ain't like other countries, they are different to Europe and Russia. If they believe that the territory of eastern Russia indirect belong to them, so see no more partnerships with them.
Hmm, yes - I'm reminded of what they did to the Tibetans, using the excuse it was their territory in the past anyway (a Chinese doctor jumped down my throat once about that - "it was ours, it was ours!" she said, and no argument from me would change her viewpoint!) So, those guys can be a bit invasive when they want to be. We've just had a news report this morning about cyber-crime costing the UK economy around 27 BILLION GBP! Where do all the cyber-traces lead in relation to this crime? Yep, CHINA! (Commentators have warned though that this may simply be what criminals want us to believe - just because the trail leads to China, doesn't mean that it's actually Chinese people doing it, or that their govt is necessarily officially involved in industrial espionage, stealing our intellectual property, industrial plans etc. It doesn't look very good though..)
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However, not only they have problems with their "odd" people. Russia has continuously suffered from the invasion of Chinese illegal immigrants here. Some call them "yellow locusts." :D
I dare bet that private companies are using them as cheap labour as well. It's exactly the same over here. Illegal immigrants are taking up jobs on the cheap, whilst many natives over here are sitting at home living on the dole (crazy!). The govt has just announced plans though to overhaul the welfare system so that people have to take whatever work is a available, so vacancies will be filled by native British people rather than illegal immigrants flooding in to "last port of call Britain" from the EU.
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Besides, our people belong to one branch of the Aryan peoples. Read about some folk in the middle of Pakistan and Afganistan
They look like Europeans.
Yes, yes i heard about these people - they are exactly like Europeans! I didn't realise how much til you posted the pics, so thanks for sharing those!
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Indian are such similar to Europeans, not like Chinese or others Asian folks. Also Russian is similar to old Indian - Sanskrit. For example:
ada (sansk.) - eda (rus.) - eat (eng.)
adi (sansk.) - odin (rus.) - one (eng.) - remember Odin
asmi (sansk.) - esm' (old russ.) - is (eng.)
ashta (sansk.) - eight (eng.) - vosem' (rus.)
matri, mata (sansk.) - mat' (rus.) - mother (eng.)
nabhasa (sanck.) - nebesa (rus.) - sky (eng.)
svasti (sansk.) - schastje (rus.) - happiness (eng.)
traja (sansk.) - troe (rus.) - three (eng.)
chatvara (sansk.) - chetvero (rus.) - four (eng.)
and over more hundreds examples, you will see them if learn sanskrit and Russian
Exactly - we can also look at other words too like Sanskrit "Atman" (soul/divine breath) old English "Aethm" (Breath, carrying meaning also of consciousness originally) Latin "Anima" (life-force/soul, as in "Animism"). We share so many common-sounding words (and also concepts probably) that it's hard to deny there was some kind of original proto-indo-european culture (? around the area of the Steppes which then spread out). Words like "Aryan" became unpopular for a while for obvious reasons, but Indians still seem to use it freely, along with the Swastika (you see it on every door in India, but I'm not sure if non-Hindus could really get away with it - not yet anyway.)
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Ha, it looks like "we invented the Sun and the Moon and shall never give them to others, they are ours!". As I know British presence in India kept order there, but did not allow India to develop freely. Am I right?
You're exactly right. There was a horrendous situation in India where such as top hotels were only accessible to British people - native Indians weren't allowed in (how sick is that!) Also there were famines in India (such as what's now Bangladesh) caused in part by unfair taxation. British Raj party-goers feasted and got drunk whilst a short distance away people died of starvation. The "true blues" here don't like to hear this - they like to focus instead on the railways, administration, improved laws etc. The fact is we weren't in India to just "spread our marvellous civilisation" - we were there for loot as well,and it's telling that India only finally got independence after WW2, when we were too poor to fight to keep her under our rule (Ghandi was a mastermind though - he knew how to use public opinion as a mighty weapon for change.) Having said this, it was actually a British school teacher who helped the independence movement gain momentum by promoting the idea of self-determination as a fundamental human right amongst his Indian pupils. Many of these pupils went on to become key figures in the freedom movement, so whilst the British have a chequered history morally speaking in India, there was at least one British person as well decent enough to see that Indians had an absolute right and ability to rule themselves.
The history of the British Raj is fascinating because not only did we influence Indians, they influenced us too, and many British servicemen "went native", absorbed many aspects of Hindu culture and religion, married Indian wives, and generally caused righteous outrage amongst Christian clergy back home! This sadly led to an increase in influence on the British Indian administration by evangelical Christians, who in their quest to impose their ideas on decision-making and law, caused outrage and rebellion amongst both Hindu and Muslim Indians. This was really probably the beginning of the end of our rule in India, but the period before such rebellions was one of more mutual tolerance and co-existance, producing such texts as Charles Stuart's "A Vindication of the Hindoos" (you can read about the famous "Hindoo Stuart" here - ) Ever astute, Stuart observed:
"Wherever I look around me, in the vast ocean of Hindu mythology, I discover Piety....Morality...and as far as I can rely on my judgement, it appears the most complete and ample system of Moral Allegory that the world has ever produced."
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We here still don't forget those brave years when Russia and UK were in common Union called Triple Entente, and we were friends. But the Revolution in 1917 made us in different sides of barricades. I hope UK and Russia soon will be more closer then now, and our heathen movement shall help us as it can, I see it.
I agree completely - our foreign ministers just met in the last few days of course and have made some progress so the journalists are saying. There'll be a hotline, a "Red Telephone", between London and Moscow soon apparently, so maybe something of those old days of the Triple Entente might be coming back. I hope so! Remembering our commonalities in cultural roots too, as we Heathens like to do, will indeed go a big way to help this!
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They do it only for the provocations make us aggressive to Baltic countries but I know people there are looking at us like friends,
I'm really glad to hear this - I did think to myself "surely not all those people are fascist crackerjacks enjoying Nazi parades!" Anyway, I did read too that there are still quite a percentage of confirmed fans of such as Stalin, even in places like Georgia, so public opinion in any nation is not always as one-dimensional as it seems, and historical factors more complicated.
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and as usual government watches different eyes to its folk.
This is an endemic problem throughout Europe too - how many of us moan that we vote these guys in and then they ignore public opinion completely! Our new govt has done a u-turn recently on its idea to sell off much of our forest land, so there is a chink of hope that this lot are at least willing to listen to a public outcry!
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It's often case when government and people are two different countries on the same lands.
Yup - it's like they take office and then undergo some kind of personality change to the one that was presented to us in the TV election campaigns! I can't moan too much about Cameron though as yet, because he's been listening to people on at least some things.
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Okay, where did they find terrorists' bases exactly? Membership in the European NATO forces you all to send your young male citizens to 'hot spots' in the Middle East. It sounds like a crazy raving.
Well this is the big question that everyone's been asking, and anyway the most recent terrorist plots here in Britain have been foiled by secret services, not by soldiers getting needlessly blown up in Afghanistan and Iraq. Who needs NATO really when we could all just co-operate as independent nations anyway?! This question was asked a long time ago, but some of these NATO top-brass types probably have big salaries and want to justify their existence, plus there'll be loads of lucrative arms-deals involved, and so the great big monolithic entity continues to exist, just like the UN, the EU, and other over-arching, basically undemocratic institutions we have to send money and people to. People in countries around the globe are now asking these questions. (NATO and the UN are two of the hottest topics in political chatrooms in loads of countries, with people on both the political left and right seeing them as suspiciously pointless entities. I think they have a point - what exactly ARE they designed to do, since they haven't got a particularly good track record anyway in dealing with problems! The UN now even has Saudi Arabia on a panel of representatives dealing with women's rights - how ridiculous is that! :( )
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Online translator - our common home helper. I often use it for talking to Norwegians or Germans if they don't know English even in its plain spoken style.
Handy tools aren't they - I think I'll make sure to check now though how it has translated what I've tried to say, just to check it's been accurate! :lol:
I'm interested to know how you find opinions in different European countries - do we think alike or different in different places? Do we complain about the same issues?
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I learned English for six years but my true knowledges about your native language are now coming only since not long time ago when I started to be a head of our International Dept.
Your English is very good - you make me feel ashamed I don't know more Russian! :unsure: :lol:
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Probably, the Russian language is more difficult than English, but I do not know, because I know my native language for a long time. :D as you know English.
Oh no no - Russian appears to me to be an easier language to learn than many other languages closer georgraphically. Once I master the alphabet I don't think it will be too difficult to learn how to read and speak it - it seems to be pronounced phonetically, and so is much easier for language dumbos like us to get to grips with! The hardest languages I've tried to have a go at have been Dutch and Danish (very difficult to understand all the pronunciation rules!), and these are most closely related to old English! :lol:
The Dutch really can't stand the horribly clumsy attempts by English people to speak their native language, and they usually end up just telling us to either speak english or shut up! :lol:
Yes, Chinese products clog our market too. It's often when the police found pairs of mercury and toxic chemicals in toys. China illegally supplying bad diapers to Russia, harmful toys and cheap electronics. I do not know why so many Chinese sewage. Anyway, our business and the market is suffering from counterfeiting. I was ready to agree that this is simply an illegal product, which is usually burned in furnaces. But when I learned that my young tribesmen and Russian babies sick with skin problems and cancer (because of dangerous diapers and toys), I'm ready to shoot all the Chinese on our borders with China. Mao, forgive me B)
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I dare bet that private companies are using them as cheap labour as well. It's exactly the same over here. Illegal immigrants are taking up jobs on the cheap, whilst many natives over here are sitting at home living on the dole (crazy!). The govt has just announced plans though to overhaul the welfare system so that people have to take whatever work is a available, so vacancies will be filled by native British people rather than illegal immigrants flooding in to "last port of call Britain" from the EU.
This is another one problem with capitalism. When you have the opportunity to save money on cheap labor, you hire Chinese or the Tajiks (in Russia). And normal people once again left without work.
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Exactly - we can also look at other words too like Sanskrit "Atman" (soul/divine breath) old English "Aethm" (Breath, carrying meaning also of consciousness originally) Latin "Anima" (life-force/soul, as in "Animism"). We share so many common-sounding words (and also concepts probably) that it's hard to deny there was some kind of original proto-indo-european culture (? around the area of the Steppes which then spread out). Words like "Aryan" became unpopular for a while for obvious reasons, but Indians still seem to use it freely, along with the Swastika (you see it on every door in India, but I'm not sure if non-Hindus could really get away with it - not yet anyway.)
We do not follow bans, we follow the opportunities. It is not allowed to use words associated with the Nazis in Russia because the 'swastika' and Aryans are more elder the Germany and Russia together, no matter how cool. It's sad when people look at the Sun symbol and remember all those horrors of WWII. We're learning to understand symbols in their ancient means. So we have the swastika in our flag like the ancient friend of Russians - the Sun. We love it, and it loves us all.
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"Wherever I look around me, in the vast ocean of Hindu mythology, I discover Piety....Morality...and as far as I can rely on my judgement, it appears the most complete and ample system of Moral Allegory that the world has ever produced."
Right words. Imperialism of Old England sometimes didn't notice the piety and the world around him. However, it gave civilization to the Australian and New Zealand. When the colony gives science and useful, it is very good. But anyway the responsibility for Indian genocide in Northern America lies with the inability to control vast territories in subjection. Now the U.S. must apologize for the murder and oppression of the Indians in Northern America. India in Asia now is free.
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I hope so! Remembering our commonalities in cultural roots too, as we Heathens like to do, will indeed go a big way to help this!
Cold War politics has done its dirty work. This is a bit of difficult to reconcile our country to the level of the former fraternal unions in Entente. But nowadays each of us must wonder - what can I do for the friendship of the folks?
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I'm really glad to hear this - I did think to myself "surely not all those people are fascist crackerjacks enjoying Nazi parades!" Anyway, I did read too that there are still quite a percentage of confirmed fans of such as Stalin, even in places like Georgia, so public opinion in any nation is not always as one-dimensional as it seems, and historical factors more complicated.
Stalin was a Georgian, so Georgia just ought to be proud of their tribesman B) but when Saaka the Bitch ordered to blow up all the monuments of Stalin and the Soviet Union in Georgia, I still wonder why the people of Georgia has not yet picked him up on bayonets?
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Yup - it's like they take office and then undergo some kind of personality change to the one that was presented to us in the TV election campaigns! I can't moan too much about Cameron though as yet, because he's been listening to people on at least some things.
Do you know what are our politicians afraid of? Ours public pressures. So when our regional "congressman" or the town major becomes to be a dirty bastard we collect signatures for his resignation. Democracy works only when people are not afraid to stand up for themselves.
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This question was asked a long time ago, but some of these NATO top-brass types probably have big salaries and want to justify their existence, plus there'll be loads of lucrative arms-deals involved, and so the great big monolithic entity continues to exist, just like the UN, the EU, and other over-arching, basically undemocratic institutions we have to send money and people to.
Money rules the world. As usual, as it was always. But why European society don't contradict to NATO? What are you afraid of? Attack first by yourselves, but not when NATO will decide what you shall do like NATO wants.
Handy tools aren't they - I think I'll make sure to check now though how it has translated what I've tried to say, just to check it's been accurate!
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Ooh, when I translate from English into Russian through online-translators, it becomes a strange and funny. Also when I do it with German, pagans of Germany just not often understand me what I want to write on their forums because I use the form of imperative in nouns and verbs. :D I didn't even know it, because here in Russia it's usual to speak with friends in such form, for example: "Why don't you still brew tea, it's five o-clock!". German will say: "Why hadn't you found free time for brewing tea, maybe we have to drink it already?"... oh something like this :P Germans never use imperative mood in everyday conversation. They use it only for orders.
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I'm interested to know how you find opinions in different European countries - do we think alike or different in different places? Do we complain about the same issues?
You know, I think you are similar in lots. There are various manners of communication, yes, maybe. The Germans are more restrained in communication, laconic, Norwegians are more friendly and sociable, but Swedes on the contrary are laconic and secretive. Spaniards or Italians are 'hotter' in the words, may not be restrained in words, but can apologize later for what was said. :P
British people more polite and sociable, but you always follow the conservative path of communication. You try to imitate Europe or the U.S., but you would not succeed, you will be always English and that's good because the world will be boring without classic English styles. Btw, the first foreign county I knew in childhood was... England. :D
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Your English is very good - you make me feel ashamed I don't know more Russian!
Uh, I'm flattered. I thought that my English is not always like the English.
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Oh no no - Russian appears to me to be an easier language to learn than many other languages closer georgraphically. Once I master the alphabet I don't think it will be too difficult to learn how to read and speak it - it seems to be pronounced phonetically, and so is much easier for language dumbos like us to get to grips with! The hardest languages I've tried to have a go at have been Dutch and Danish (very difficult to understand all the pronunciation rules!), and these are most closely related to old English!
The Dutch really can't stand the horribly clumsy attempts by English people to speak their native language, and they usually end up just telling us to either speak english or shut up!
If you got some probs with Russian - I will help you. Our alphabet is full of "strange" letters for folks learned on Latin letters. For example "Ю" or "Ъ". In most of cases this is old forms of our runic letters like Я, K, M, T and others. The same in Europe. We used runes similar to Germans or Saxons like you showed me the 33-rd tune in Scotch runic futark is the same like ours ornament.
Danish is difficult? Ha, I can not agree with this because I'm learning Norwegian. I can say more - Norwegian is like English, that's Russian says to you ;) :D
Yes, Chinese products clog our market too. It's often when the police found pairs of mercury and toxic chemicals in toys. China illegally supplying bad diapers to Russia, harmful toys and cheap electronics.
Well it's terrible that they're flooding your market with bad products like this - products (toys as well I think) have been found here too from China that are dangerous and unfit for the market. That the cyber crime appears to be coming from China isn't really surprising in light of all this - they don't seem to care what effect such dirty tricks has on other nations. It might come back to haunt them though in future, since they'll lose friends in the world!
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This is another one problem with capitalism. When you have the opportunity to save money on cheap labor, you hire Chinese or the Tajiks (in Russia). And normal people once again left without work.
This is why any private business model only really works when its strictly controlled, with harsh penalties for any breach of the law. Uncontrolled capitalism always ends up trying to hire the cheapest labour - this article about Dubai shows the dark side of a "capitalist paradise" with unregulated private ownership
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But anyway the responsibility for Indian genocide in Northern America lies with the inability to control vast territories in subjection. Now the U.S. must apologize for the murder and oppression of the Indians in Northern America.
There are still problems on Native American Indian reservations in the US, and the govt continues to try and squeeze them. There's an issue with companies seeking to bury such as nuclear waste on their tribal lands in return for money, when they know that they are too poor to refuse such cash offers. The result of this has been an increase in incidents of cancer etc amongst NAI populations in some areas. Some have gotten a kind of revenge for the past in a way by making lots of money from white Americans by setting up casinos, but in the end of course the history of genocide at the hands of European settlers is a real stain on US history which no amount of cash can repay. Many Americans will admit this and see it as shameful, whilst others are completely ignorant of it and just see the romantic "Cowboys and Indians" version of their history (ie that the white man came and had to civilise the wayward natives, which is basically crap because some tribes actually welcomed Europeans, giving them food when they were hungry etc.)
When Obama got into office, loads of people said "Now there's justice - they have a black president now after all those years of slavery and segregation etc!" My uncle commented that actually real justice would be that they have a Native American Indian president, and I agreed with him....
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Stalin was a Georgian, so Georgia just ought to be proud of their tribesman B) but when Saaka the Bitch ordered to blow up all the monuments of Stalin and the Soviet Union in Georgia, I still wonder why the people of Georgia has not yet picked him up on bayonets?
Oh hel yes I forgot he was Georgian! (I read his biography too - shows how good my memory is! :lol: ) Public opinion may change in Georgia though in future, and people might be more vocal about Saaka's actions...
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Do you know what are our politicians afraid of? Ours public pressures. So when our regional "congressman" or the town major becomes to be a dirty bastard we collect signatures for his resignation. Democracy works only when people are not afraid to stand up for themselves.
Absolutely true - the record of history shows too that even in non-democratic countries, the ruling powers always fear public uprising more than anything else. Democracy just becomes a sort of shallow salesmanship on the part of politicians if people are too complacent and just let the govt do as they please unchallenged. You're right that it requires the public to stand up for itself.
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But why European society don't contradict to NATO? What are you afraid of? Attack first by yourselves, but not when NATO will decide what you shall do like NATO wants.
You have a point of course, but it's probably because people are afraid of "what might happen if.." and so NATO just continues to exist. Fear causes people to cling to all sorts of outdated things, and if you can persuade people that they need this or that because of some dreadful apocalyptic scenario, then they'll continue to believe in it. I think all these sort of organisations need a reappraisal really, because the world has changed, they cost too much money, and sometimes do more harm than good.
Russians in Russia are similar to the Indians in America. No, I think wrongly. We are guinea pigs. Russia is among the leading countries in the population decline. In 2002 we had 148 millions, in 2010 we have 141 millions.
Ave to all of you: in Italy is quite famous the cultural network called Eurasia of well known expert Alexsandr Dughin, does someone know about him in the Russias, i hope yes!
The thesis he exposes seem to be interesting.
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